Let's Define the Rules & Pick Our Bookmarking Sites!

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Let's Define the Rules & Pick Our Bookmarking Sites!

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Started 2 years ago by Heather
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Heather
Key Master
Hi Tribers!

I'd love you to submit your top 3 picks for sites you want included in this social bookmarking forum as well as the rules you feel it should have. I believe they should be similar to the blog commenting forum, but I'd love to include the input from the tribe on this.

Thanks for bringing the idea up @Tim

Here is a copy of his post with the suggestions he had for the bookmarking forum:

"I'll glad that you like the idea. This is sweet.:-)

@Heather, this is my suggestion...others can add or remove from it.
***just the normal way we comment, people will drop their links and it'll be voted up in the social media site.

We could create another sub-forum for it or allow it to run inside the commenting forum. That depends on what other people think.

Another thing is limiting the number of places we'll have to vote. For instance, digg, stumbleupon, reddit are the biggest...people might/may be requested to promote content only on this site so that we don't thin out...just my idea.

So, it'll look like this:
1. I start a bookmarking campaign
2. I submit my link and description.
3. I choose where I want it voted up. (may be 1 or all 3, members will decide that)
4. Others submit their links and we all vote it up.
5. The circle continues.

Note: From my research, I've learn't that submitting your own content is frowned upon by the social media sites and also the users so SOMEONE WILL HAVE YOU SUBMITT YOUR CONTENT AND THAT'S WHY PROVIDING A GOOD DESCRIPTION IS IMPORTANT.

Did I make sense?

Tim"

Thanks everyone!
Heather

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Posted 2 years ago #
Jym
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This is a very good idea...

I'm aware that StumbledUpon can bring in a lot of traffic, and I believe that Tim suggested Reddit can do the same.

As far as i can tell it's much harder with Digg and I've removed that button from my site, but I'm happy to Digg other people's content.

I've also heard from reliable sources that it's true that it helps to have others submit your content first. It also looks better for visitors to your profile.

How about, we each submit our link, the description to be added upon submission, and which site we wish it to be submitted too. Is that what has already been suggested?

It may also be worth including Blokube and SERPd as well? What does Dev think about that?

Posted 2 years ago #
Heather
Key Master

Hi Jym,

I agree about digg. I have seen some network marketers at the top of the business category in news vine, not sure how much that helps them traffic wise. I also wonder about blokube and serpd! :)

I do think we should include everything here so someone else can submit it for us: Links, description, category, keywords depending on the site we're asking for.

Also are you thinking that we'll be bookmarking each post on multiple sites or only on one site?

Everyone else, what do you think?

Heather

Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

@Heather- I'm glad everyone liked the idea! Thanks everyone. Big Big kisses and lofty ross flowers for ya all.:) I also send hugs from Africa!!! This is kinda sweet.

Here are my suggestions and ideas (of course they're open to addition or modification as always)

**We could focus on the biggest social bookmarking sites i.e digg.com stumbleupon.com and reddit.com

**Everyone participating in the campaign will have to have accounts with these three sites.

**For testing sake, everyone should have a way or tracking the traffic level so that we can know if this is working or a complete waste of time. Use google analytics or getclicky.com to get the goal accomplished. The latter even shows you live stats of visitors...real time. You'll be seeing exactly what they're doing on your site.

**Submit a link you'll want to have voted or simple make it easy for people to vote your articles straight from your site. They're wordpress plugins for this.

**I'll suggest that link promotion should be limited to around 3 per week for increased effectiveness. Posting too often might raise red signal. (again, this is just my opinion)

**Along with your link should be your short enticing description of your article. Appropriate category should also be included when and if applicable.

**I'll suggest that a campaign should be around 15-20 votes for effectiveness. On some big sites, 5 or 10 vote up will/might not attain the desired effect. 20 votes on digg.com will/might go a long way.

If I've missed anything, if I'm sure I have, please don't hesitate to add it.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Oliver
Member

Kind of weird, I was sure that I had already posted here. OK.

I vote for Stumbleupon, Digg and Delicious. I haven't done Reddit so far, but I am open.

I agree with Jym that it's better to have someone else submit the post than the author of the post.

It takes about 5 minutes to submit a post and vote for it on the three sites mentioned above. Less of course when a post has already been submitted.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

Can someone then provide a step-by-step guide to submitting on either reddit, stumbleupon, digg or delicious? Such tutorial will really be handy.

It should contain:
1. How to submit a post to the social bookmarking sites.
2. Quick way for others vote it/promote it.
3. General information on how to make this campaign successful.

Thanks for your usual support!
Tim

Posted 2 years ago #
Jane
Member

Strange. I posted my opinion here, but it does not show up!

I was thinking of suggesting Blokube, Blog Engage and Blog Interact too.

Cheers,
Jane.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Oliver
Member

Hi,

here's a video tutorial that explains how I submit stuff to Stumbleupon, Digg and Delicious. It also talks about the Unified Tribe I am no longer part of.

http://www.askolivertausend.com/2010/10/blog-syndication-tutorial-mr-syndication/

Cheers

Oliver

Posted 2 years ago #
Ian
Member

Maybe we could think about integrating with OnlyWire

Just a suggestion.

I am open to any of the sites mentioned above

Posted 2 years ago #
iDevesh
Member

This nice idea Heather.

I vote for SU, Digg and Blokube :) !

Dev

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Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

@idevesh where else would you have voted for.:) glad you liked the idea!

So when are we rolling?
@Heather which campaign goes first?

Tim

Posted 2 years ago #
Jayne
Member

Sorry to sound a little out of loop, but how will this work exactly? Do we just post links and ask that others share on the chosen sites? thanks in advance for your patience and answers!

Jayne

Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

Let someone take up the leadership role here and lead us all...we need to be steered in the right direction.

Anyone with experience please? @idevesh @oliver anyone please?

Posted 2 years ago #
The Web Video Academy
Member

Great suggestions everyone!

I don't think there needs to be a limit, or that doing it more than 3 days a week would raise any red flags. It may if you were sharing your own content over and over, or if it was being shared from the same ip address. But being that we're all over the world, and voluntarily sharing each others content, there should be no problem at all with this. The more the better in my opinion.

One thing I would like is if this remained private. I don't think we should blog about this, or talk about it with people outside of this site.

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Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

LET US START A CAMPAIGN ASAP!!! I THINK WE'RE SET TO GO...OPEN A CAMPAIGN SOMEONE AND LET US START PROMOTION!

@Heather give the "go" command and let's roll.

Tim

Posted 2 years ago #
Oliver
Member

Hi everyone,

1. I suggest that we do 3 social bookmarking campaigns every week on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. We share our request in a separate forum here on CM. Campaigns close automatically at midnight US Eastern time on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. They open automatically at midnight on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

2. We include Stumbleupon, Digg, Delicious and Blokube. People who want their stuff bookmarked there have to install the relevant buttons on their posts. No button, no bookmarking.

3. It's better when a person other than the author submits the posts to the different sites. So the first person getting to the posts is supposed to submit them. The buttons don't always work, so I suggest that you install the AddThis toolbar in your browser. Once submitted, it's a matter of seconds to share them. The original submission should take less than 5 minutes.

4. Trust against trust. The same rules apply according to the blog commenting forum: Everybody who requests bookmarking has to do all the other bookmarking jobs as well before requesting new bookmarking in the next campaign.

5. I suggest we start on Monday, 2nd of May so that everybody is able to open accounts at the sites on the weekend. Let's give us trial period for the entire month of May and then we decide what worked and what didn't work. Plan, do, adjust, right ?

6. Here's a tutorial about blog syndication I created a while ago (disregard the part about the Unified Tribe): http://www.askolivertausend.com/2010/10/blog-syndication-tutorial-mr-syndication/

7. Happy bookmarking !

Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

Thanks Oliver. You've done a great job of outlining the steps to be taken. Here are my modification and opinion...subject to change though.

1. Let the campaign roll as normal. No limitation, just like the commenting campaign, someone opens a bookmarking campaign, others join and the campaign doesn't close till all have submitted. My reason is based on "web audio academy's idea". We should not limit it.

2. The person that opens a campaign should volunteer to submit for others. That means the person that opens the campaign becomes the "group leader" or "campaign leader" for that campaign and makes sure that every post is submitted as required. The second person will submit for the "campaign leader"

3. No easy button, no submission. Please install the "add" plugin/buttons to your blog,

4. Please install analytics or getclicky to track your blog success in terms of traffic from this networks.

That said, how many social bookmarking sites should we submit to in a campaign? 3? 5? 100? Or 1? Maybe a vote will do here. Below are my favorites:
1. http://www.reddit.com
2. http://digg.com
3. http://stumbleupon.com
4. http://delicious.com
5. http://blokube.com
6. http://blogengage.com
7. http://whichever I've missed.com

Once we decide the ones we want to use, the next thing will be, how many people should make up a campaign. For me, anywhere between 10-20 will do. If the target is to get frontpage listings for those sites, we need as much. For reddit, just 10 votes can do wonders.

Tim

Posted 2 years ago #
Samantha
Member

Thanks so much for everyone's initiative on this. Other than Blokube, I don't have accounts with any of these sites yet, but would be happy to start up and join everyone in the excitement! =)

Oliver, your beginner's video to StumbleUpon, Digg and Delicious is super helpful! =)

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Posted 2 years ago #
Jym
Member

Wow! Lots of discussion since I last checked in here! (Weekends are busy for me)

I like the general principles going on here, a few things I'd like to clarify:

1 - As Susanna mentioned, I think this should would be best to keep private and within this community.

2 - I agree that voting should be easy, so we must all have buttons for anything we want voted upon.

3 - The same as in the commenting, there should be no direct business or affiliate promotion posts, or if there are, voting on them is voluntary.

2 - I agree with Olivers idea of Timed (eg Monday, Wednesday, Friday) campaigns (see point 6). The 'roll over' works for commenting because there's only so many posts you can read and a limit of 10 makes sense. Voting is much quicker, and by doing it this way we'll get different numbers each time which is also more authentic. As Tim pointed out, 10-20 is not too great a number.

5 - Since it takes a fair bit longer to put in the initial submissions than to vote, there should be some kind of rotation, so that we all share this responsibility. I hope that that can happen naturally, with each member stepping up in turn?

6 - I suggest that all submissions are made for each campaign on the first day of that campaign, and then the nominated 'submitter' submits all of them the following day, then posts to let other members know so they can vote too.

As Tim says - let's get stuck in and we can smooth out the bumps as we go. OK with you Heather? Here's what's going to happen:

Step 1 - We all sign up for the sites listed by Tim and add relevant buttons.

Step 2 - Those who wish to post a link do so on Monday, with description and suggested category.

Step 3 - I volunteer to be the first submitter, which means that as soon as possible after midnight on Monday night EST, I will submit all the posts. Then I'll post again to let you all know.

Step 4 - Everyone in the campaign makes the required votes for each post, and is not entitled to submit in another campaign until they have voted for all other submissions.

I'm open to any feedback on that - any thoughs?
I also think we should go ahead and get started with the structure we've worked out so far and if something doesn't work, change along the way.

Posted 2 years ago #
Jym
Member

And one more thing!

Whoever the submitter is for each campaign will have to have someone else submit their own post. Perhaps this can simply be whoever is the first to their nominated post for the campaign.

Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

@JYM you've pretty much laid it all down. Let's follow your process and see how far we can go with that.

My only question is: how many submission will make up a campaign? 10? 15? 20? Once that's sorted, we can go from there.

For me anywhere from 15-20 is okay. What do you think?

Tim

Posted 2 years ago #
Jym
Member

Thanks Tim... I reckon we're getting there!

My feeling is that it will be easier to arrange, especially for the submitter, if each campaign is organized by time rather than a specific number of submissions.

So everyone submits on Monday, and on Tuesday the nominated submitter submits all posts, then everyone votes. Same for Wednesday and so on. There's no minimum or maximum number within that time (one per person of course)

We'll see how many people will actively take part. My guess (only a guess!) is that there could be around 15-20 per campaign. Sometimes more, sometimes less. If there's too many, or too few, we change either the timings, or submit each campaign after there's 15 or 20 posts nominated.

What do you think? Let's try it like that and revue after the first week...

Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

I agree with JYM. Let's follow that approach and review after the first week.

What do you all think?
Tim

Posted 2 years ago #
Jym
Member

Posted 2 years ago #
Jym
Member

Sorry about that empty comment.

I've been reading through again, and thinking about how this will work.

Heather's original suggestion of around three sites is a good one, maybe we can add extra ones by choice but not compulsory. I'm suggesting Reddit, Digg and StumbledUpon as the three since they have the highest traffic potential. We need to confirm this (or not)

Here's a better solution than the one person volunteering to submit idea: As each person shares their link, they submit the previous person's link to all chosen sites. Whoever posts first will have to make sure to submit the last person's link. Therefore we'll be better to use Tim's original idea - a certain number of posts - just like the blogging campaigns. I suggest we try with 15 posts per campaign, and see how it goes. This may need adjustment

The reason for this is that if there's 10-20 posts, three or more submissions per post, that's going to take a single person a long time to do all the submitting for a whole campaign. Too long. This way, the load is always shared.

So here is my updated guidelines suggestion

1. Everyone who wants to participate joins StumbledUpon, Digg and Reddit (links on Tim's post above), and adds buttons for those to their blog (no easy button, no vote)

2. Beginning with Campaign #1 (which I'll open in the next few hours) We'll all add our link* with a short description (use the meta tag for your post perhaps) and a suggested category for submission (eg business, technology, personal development etc)

*No over affiliate promotions or business opportunity posts.

3. As we add our link, numbering it along the way (as with the commenting campaigns) we go to the previous poster's site and submit their post to the agreed bookmarking sites. The following poster does the same for us etc. Poster #1 will submit the links of #15.

4. Once Poster #1 has submitted the last link, all submissions are ready to be voted for by simply clicking the buttons. Of course, you don't have to do them all at once, but they will not all be ready for voting until the final submission has been made.

ANY FEEDBACK? I think we're ready to go ahead and trial this...
As Tim pointed out, it would be good to keep an eye on analytics and see what kind of traffic comes from this (we should all be doing this for our own sakes anyway!)

Apologies for the long winded discussion above, but I believe we've arrived at a workable structure for this!

Posted 2 years ago #
Oliver
Member

You are all awesome my friends. Jym's idea is cool to install kind of a rotation. Let's do it :-)

@Samantha: Thank you. Glad you find it helpful :-)

Posted 2 years ago #
Oliver
Member

Wanted to let you know that I started the first campaign at http://clevermarketer.com/member/mastermind/topic/bookmarking-campaign-monday-may-2nd

Posted 2 years ago #
Tim
Member

Let's roll it! I'm submitting my post to the campaign now.

Tim

Posted 2 years ago #
Lou
Member

Hi Heather,

I'm kind of just listening and watching at this point till I figure out what social bookmarking is and what you're all doing on these campaigns.

Lou Barba

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Posted 2 years ago #
Jym
Member

Hi Lou - a brief explanation for you:

Social Bookmarking sites like Digg, Reddit and Stumbleupon are simply sites where users submit posts or content they like, and are able to leave comments upon it. Usually there a system for having 'friends' as well.

The submitted posts come up in feeds, so other users will see them. The more people vote/digg/like/thumbs up for a submitted post, the more likely it is be seen and noticed, and therefore read and shared by others.

So this idea is to get us all sharing on these forums. Potentially, they can help us all reach a wider audience.

Any help?

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